"When faced with a problem you do not understand,
do any part of it you do understand; then look at it again."
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Tuesday, June 28, 2011

[FWD: Fw: Important Message ! ! ! ! ! ! !]

Got the following in the email a week ago.  (Updated below)
My only alteration is to the formatting.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Important Message ! ! ! ! ! ! !
From: ***** ****** <*************@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, June 21, 2011 10:25 pm
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

---------- Forwarded message ---------

Subject: Fw: Important Message ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Subject: Important Message ! ! ! ! ! ! !

My great great grandfather watched as his friends died in the Civil War, my grandfather watched as his friends died in WW II, and my father watched as my friends died in Vietnam.

None of them died for the Mexican Flag.

Everyone died for the U.S. Flag.

In Texas, a student raised a Mexican flag on a school flag pole; another student took it down. Guess who was expelled...the kid who took it down.

Kids in high school in California were sent home this year on Cinco de Mayo because they wore T-shirts with the American flag printed on them.

Enough is enough.

The below e-mail message needs to be viewed by every American; and every American needs to stand up for America.

We've bent over to appease the America-haters long enough.

I'm taking a stand.

I'm standing up because the hundreds of thousands who died fighting in wars for this country, and for the U.S. Flag can't stand up.

And shame on anyone who tries to make this a racist message.
Let me make this perfectly clear!

This is my country!

And, because I make This statement DOES NOT Mean I'm against immigration!!!


Welcome! To come through legally:

1. Get a sponsor!
2. Get a place to lay your head!
3. Get a job!
4. Live By OUR Rules!
5. Pay YOUR Taxes!
6. Learn the LANGUAGE like immigrants have in the past!!!
7. Please don't demand that we hand over our lifetime Savings of Social Security Funds to you.

If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone,

When will AMERICANS STOP giving away THEIR RIGHTS???

We've gone so far the other way... Bent over backwards not to offend anyone. But it seems no one cares about the AMERICAN CITIZEN that's being offended!

WAKE UP America !!!

If You agree.... Pass this on.

If You don't agree.. Delete It


And, there you have it.
He's not at all bashful about emphasizing his points.

And, you know what?
I'm damned if I can find anything in there I disagree with.

UPDATE - 11 Jul 2011 - BOOM!!!
A reader just let me have it with both barrels in his comment below.

"No offense,"  -- None taken.
"but I don't agree."  --I appreciate the way you don't agree.

You chose to dispute me with facts. I've seen many blogs where that  wont cut it at all; you'd be expected to use vitriol instead.  You were polite and chose not to chastise me for sloppy (or non-existent) research.

Well, you may consider me properly chastised anyway. Effectively?  Yet to be determined; I'm 69 now, and old habits are hard to break.

The way the flag and t-shirts incidents  were told in the email are pretty much what I had seen on various web sites. I'm guilty of just passing that along without any real attempt to get to the bottom of the story;  all too ready to just take it at face value.  Thanks for the urls, which I am turning into links...

  Mom of TX Student Suspended for Removing Mexican Flag Sets Story Straight 
 (This one, I could not check because of my painfully slow dial-up connection,
   but I have checked the others.)

  California kids blasted for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo

One thing in that email that really struck a chord for me was # 6, about learning the language.  I've vented on that before ( in A Profound Sadness at the Polling Station - Did you really think I would pass up an opportunity to blow my own horn? :-), because of personal experience.

That, along with some of the other points is addressed very well in the following post by Christina Elizabeth ...
   I got this email today. I didn’t forward it. You know why?   ...

A reader notes, "The second half of this email came from here..."
  Let me make this perfectly clear! THIS IS MY COUNTRY!  adding,
"And I want to add a correction to that writer's claim about Social Security.",
which is this post:  Econ 101 on Illegal Immigrants

It's an eye-opener:  apparently many are paying;  for which they get nothing.

So, all I can respond to A reader is, "Thank you for the education."

Should you feel I could use a bit more enlightenment on some of my other posts, you are very welcome here.  :-)



A reader said...

No offense, but I don't agree. This email is full of factual inaccuracies.
I'm trying to push back, with respect, on a trend of misleading emails.

The first half of this email is a list of things done at schools, involving the flags.
The description of the first case about the Mexican flag was incorrect. The flag was not run up a pole by a student. Its display was sanctioned by the school and it was hung alone on a balcony railing. According to his mother, the student took the Mexican flag down and threw it away.
There are more details, by the mother, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO8MGmoVgGU
In the second case of the flag shirts, the vice principal thought that wearing Flag shirts and bandannas on Cinco de Mayo was inviting conflict. Instead of helping both sides accommodate and respect each other, the students were sent home. The administration says the vice principal handled it badly. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-05-06/news/27063738_1_american-flag-shirts-mexican-americans

The second half of this email came from here
And I want to add a correction to that writer's claim about Social Security
from http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/apr2006/pi20060407_072803.htm
"Ilegal immigrants pay social security payroll taxes but are not eligible for benefits. During 2006, Standard & Poor's analysts wrote: "Each year, for example, the U.S. Social Security Administration maintains roughly $6 billion to $7 billion of Social Security contributions in an "earnings suspense file" -- an account for W-2 tax forms that cannot be matched to the correct Social Security."

So Social Security gets extra billions EACH YEAR that will support citizens, not the illegals who put in the money.

What the two parts share, besides a flag theme is a Mexican theme, and the posting by Christina Elizabeth below addresses that.
Go there and read it.
"I got this email today. I didn’t forward it. You know why?"
Posted by Christina Elizabeth ⋅ May 28, 2010 http://kikisdeal.com/2010/05/28/i-got-this-email-today-i-didnt-forward-it-you-know-why/

Paul Gordon said...

Excellent comment. My response is the
UPDATE - 11 Jul 2011 - BOOM!!!


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